URGENT ALERT FOR ALL WHO RECONSTRUCT CLOTHES IF YOU SEE ANYTHING TO CHILDREN, LAW GOES INTO EFFECT FEB 10

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NEW LAW USED CLOTHING WILL HAVE TO BE TESTED [CHILDREN'S] FEB 10 FOR LEAD OR IT CAN'T BE SOLD
topic posted Today, 5:52 PM by ModottiManif... delete entire topic
I just got this today, EVERYONE IS IN AN UPROAR ABOUT IT---IF YOU DO ANY HOME SEWING-SALES, KNITTING, CROCHET, RECONSTRUCTING CLOTHES,

THIS EFFECTS YOU. FEB 10, this law Goes into effect, if you don't have $50,000 to batch test every single item they Can prosecute you, this is I believe a Corporate attempt to shut individual workers down and to further monopolize the market. This will also hurt elderly women who knit/crochet for extra funds, moms like me who have been Forced to work in the home to make income, etc...

read the entire thing, PASS THIS FORWARD TO EVERY TRIBE YOU KNOW THAT DOES ANYTHING WITH USED CLOTHING, THE LAW SAYS CHILDREN, BUT ITS VAGUE, HOME BUSINESSES THAT RECONSTRUCT CLOTHING/OR ETSY ETC., WHO DEFINES WHAT IS BOUGHT BY CHILDREN, SO ITS NO GUARANTEE...TIME TO GET VERY VOCAL ABOUT THIS.

well, once again, the Fanatics, have passed legislation, with good intents of course, you know, to 'protect' us, but that is going to hurt the Poor, especially those with children who rely on Thrift Stores,

its going to put Lord knows how many Poor and Disabled out of work in those Thrift Stores and Consignment Shops, and it will effect any who sell used clothing at Flea Markets and probably Garage Sales.

The law goes into effect Feb 10, Any used/new clothing sold has to be tested for lead. That is a $50,000 dollar for a small business, for the machines. Small businesses and Thrift stores are going to be on Feb 10 throwing out all used children's clothing/toys, etc [from age 12 to infant] to the Landfills,

there will be no more used clothing for the working poor/poor to buy. Small businesses that sell new clothing, many are going to be folding up, that also means, More jobs lost. They simply can't afford to test every single garment for lead and phthalates, a chemical that makes toys softer. This law was passed in Reaction to the lead cases of recalled items from China [surprise surprise],

mostly from Walmart stores and other Corporate stores. Corporations can afford testing because they have Sweatshops/Labor concentration camps [yes, literally thats what they are] Small stores and consignment stores and Thrift stores that donate proceeds to Veterans, Epilepsy, Salvation Army [lots of funds go to help the homeless/poor from those stores], and will hurt those with either Felony records that can't get jobs elsewhere Or those with disabilities that work in stores such as ARC Thrift stores.

This, I firmly believe, is a Deliberate attack to cut out competition/and to force the poor OUT of the work force by Corporate Textiles, using Environmentalism to do so. This legislation was passed by Congress [Dems strongly behind it].

for more info, please pass this around to Any tribe you know that works whatsoever with used clothing including Reconstructed clothing, as they too will be effected. I'm sure, those who sell used clothes at Garage Sales will also be targeted, eventually,

I also believe this is an attempt for Government to put an end to bartering and working off the grid, in many states its already illegal to 'dumpster dive' or what they call 'scrapping'. Making it IMPOSSIBLE for those who are LEGALLY discriminated from jobs, due to either bad credit, sexual orientation [they discriminate using those Mode of Lifestyle checks and even fast food places are doing these more and more now], divorce, bankruptcy, you name it,

and they Don't have to give you a reason as to why they don't hire you...all they have to say is the report/investigative turned up something. Therefore, forcing more people such as myself, especially with bad credit [and mine is medical bills/student loans], to work off the grid, because no one will hire you...

if you can't work even selling at Flea Markets or if you do have a job but can't afford clothes except at Thrift Stores, well guess what,

your children are going to be forced to wear either rags or go naked or you'll be forced to pay those high prices at the high end stores, or buy from Walmarts, so those who don't shop at Walmart due to sweatshop/bad working conditions, as well as KMarts, etc., will now be forced to.

This law also effects materials used, buttons, you name it, if you work in any form of textile for children's apparel, it effects you.

contact this petition, and also, some links to this law.

Modotti

see below: www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx

petition listed in that article/on comment, I'll also post here

Congress passed a new law Aug. 2008 stating that as of Feb. 10, 2009 it will
be illegal to sell any items used for children under the age of 12 if it was
manufactured before Feb. 10, 2009.

This is what YOU can do:
YOU need to call the following 3 people and let them know that you are
calling about the CPSIA Law. (www.cpsc.gov/cpsia.pdf) Tell them that in theory this new law is a good idea, but that they did not take into consideration the consequences it will
have on the rest of us in these already financially trying times. Tell them
whether you are a shopper or a consignor. Also, who and how many you shop
for. Tell them how this law will affect you personally if you could no longer
buy used items. Be passionate and persistent. TELL THEM THIS LAW MUST BE
AMENDED. ASAP!

1. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) - (202) 224-4451

2. Senator Charles Schumer (D) - (202) 224-6542

3. Your Representative (Choose one and be sure it‘s yours)
26th District:
Christopher Lee (R) - (202) 225-5265

27th District:
Brian Higgins (D) – (202) 225-3306

28th District:
Louise McIntosh Slaughter (D) - (202) 225-3615

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  • According to what I have found on this, it's really only targeting the manufacturers. The resellers are cautioned to consider what they carry - so it would be a good idea to not accept stuff from 1972 due to the obvious age and such, but there isn't anything that I could find - even skimming through 63 pages of the law that said that we can't sell things that are used for children.

    Per this article:
    www.keyetv.com/content/ne...4ye9PA.cspx

    "The CPSC is now saying the law is geared towards American manufacturers and importers of children’s items, not re-sale shops and garage sales. CPSC Officials say sellers of used children products do not have to test merchandise to certify its lead content.

    What the agency says the law is asking, is that sellers of used children’s items be vigilant and do not sell anything that could potentially contain more lead than the new legal limit. That limit is set to tighten again in August, to 300 ppm of lead in some children’s items.

    For more details about the specific rules of the law, read the reports posted on the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission website."

    The reality of the lead issue is more of a buyer beware for resale - if you are in question, don't buy it. There is even a site (I can't find my link to it at the moment) that has every recalled item (toy-wise, at least) back to the 70's. It may go farther, but my curiosity only went back that far.

    So please don't freak out, this law is aimed at making companies like Walmart more accountable to what they put on their shelves - not going after those of us who may sell small time. The government and local law enforment teams don't have the manpower to go after all of us on cragslist, etsy, and so on.

    Corporations have to follow lots of rules regarding what they sell us; this just adds one more level of "protection" to us consumers who don't know or need to shop at stores like Walmart. This is just one more way to make them accountable. Any time a law like this is passed, there seems to be a certain amount of hysteria that is created by others (often via email) by not telling the whole story and offering misleading information.

    It is good to be informed of laws that are put into place that may affect those of us who normally fall under the radar. But, I really wish that people would make sure to give us all the information. I love doing research, but not while trying to keep my own fears under wraps.
  • Hi everyone, actually btw, I think this is first time I've posted here in long while.
    OK,

    been researching, ETSY , they are at this time continuing to fight many tenants of this law, I will post this info for you, Please read it because the law, while vague, there is some very misguided language that many would Believe they are safe,

    when in fact they are not. Yes thrift stores, the CIPSA did waive, HOWEVER, they are not immune from prosecution/imprisonment, if just one garment found to exceed the limit [which is going to be going up] then they can be held accountable--so its whether or not they want to Take that risk.

    etsynews.com/824/etsy-ad...de-for-kids/

    HERE IS THE CURRENT BOARD/DISCUSSION/LEGAL THAT I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND ANY WHO WORK WHATSOEVER WITH TEXTILES READ:

    blog.buyhandmade.org/ AND

    Don’t throw yourself under the (CPSIA) bus

    Posted by Kathleen Fasanella on Jan 19, 2009 at 6:20 pm / CPSIA / Trackback

    By now, those of you following on twitter or here in the forum may have read the letter that the most strident legislative backers of CPSIA namely Waxman, Rush, Rockefeller and Pryor, sent to Nancy Nord of the CPSC. Many have taken this letter as a good sign because it’d mean that the law’s primary proponents have publicly acknowledged there are grave issues with the law. Within our own community, the letter is seen positively because it specifically requests a “small company” exemption. Other than that they faked you with a classic bait and switch -a bone they’re thrown to get you to shut up- hinging all your hopes on a possible exemption would be a grave strategic error. Unknowingly, you will be throwing yourself under the bus. Many of us suspect that the idea of a small company exemption is a strategy to placate the masses. They are hoping you will rest easy and stop annoying congressmen and senators with phone calls and letters or continuing to lobby the press for attention. Fewer of you will be going to the media with your concerns and the negative news stories will dry up if you think there’s a fix in the works. This is the last thing that should happen. Do not rest easy.

    For starters, have you given any thought to how “small company” will be defined? According to the SBA -the Small Business Administration- small (in the needle trades, SIC 315) means a firm with fewer than 500 employees. Using the governmental standard would mean that nearly everyone who makes children’s products would be exempt from the law but this implies that retailer’s more stringent interpretations of CPSIA don’t matter (more later). Small would include firms like Hanna Anderson and Gerber as well as all of you. In fact, there are probably fewer than 10 firms in existence that have more than 500 employees because children’s wear is dominated by small companies (68% have fewer than 20 employees). Now, because a “small” business exemption would include nearly all producers, it is not likely that this is the definition that would be used under any proposed CPSIA amendments.

    The reason is, it’s no secret that there is a direct correlation between safety and company size. Contrary to what many think, it is tiny companies that have more products failing than large firms as Jennifer Taggert -who’s tested thousands of products- can tell you. In other words, special interest groups know that giving the tiniest companies an exemption would actually increase the proportion of dangerous products on the market, so why would it pass? It won’t. As such, the consensus seems to be that the mention of a small company exemption is for politically expedient reasons. Do not be misled, it’s a bone thrown to you to keep you quiet. A small company exemption is likely to fail and in the mean time, having relaxed, the movement loses traction. Other than my own below, here is another analysis from Mr. Fashion-Incubator as to why a small business exemption is unlikely.

    Still, I’m willing to debate the potential of a small business exemption because I want to show that you still don’t win even if it were true. Let’s presume the amendment does pass and “small” is defined by really tiny, say a company with 1-5 employees. You’re still not off the hook, here’s why:

    * If you’re selling to big box stores (some tiny companies do!), they require their standards be followed which are much stricter than the CPSIA. You wasted your time having faith in an amendment that doesn’t help you.
    * If you’re selling to independent stores, you’re in trouble because many of those stores will likely go broke themselves because between all of the tiny producers they buy from who either can’t get testing or can’t afford it and considering the tough economic climate, there won’t be enough product at moderate price points to stock the shelves.
    * Let’s just say you’re really tiny and sell consumer direct on Etsy or your own site. You’re still in trouble only you don’t know it yet.

    I’ll explain; assuming you can get a 1-5 employee small company exemption, demand for your products is going to go through the roof because you’ll still be in business and you have an advantage price-wise that others don’t. I’ll bet you’re thinking that sounds great, right? Success is very seductive. Like most people in this position, you’ll look for ways to maximize your opportunity meaning growth. Unfortunately, you’ll then be side swiped two ways.

    * One, you’ll be growing under crisis which is never good news (and you may end up failing because success kills more companies than slow sales).
    * Second, lo and behold, you’ll add on staff and grow your way out of the exemption that gave you your growth impetus in the first place. You don’t know this yet and call me crazy all you like but usually when you get to this stage of growth, you learn that selling consumer direct is kind of a hassle so you begin to look for wholesale customers, only there won’t be many anymore or the few stores that do survive, will be gob smacked with many of your competitors who have a lot more experience, relationships and more competitive pricing so you won’t get any orders meaning you’re actually in a worse position than before because you will have lost your exemption.

    In summary, even if you qualify for an exemption to come, retailers will have gone under or you’ll grow out of the exemption very quickly. What everyone is forgetting here is the affect of this law on retail. Everyone is so busy licking their own wounds that they don’t realize that even if small companies skate by, retail stores -who buy most of their stock from companies larger than you- will go under so they won’t be around to take on your line. If retail goes under, tiny companies will either fail themselves or at best, stagnate. This why a small company exemption will not work and throwing larger firms under the bus in an effort to save your own hide will backfire.

    Due to liability concerns, retail is demanding much stricter standards than what the CPSIA requires. In addition to what I said retailers should do, Earnshaw’s said this. And they aren’t the only ones as I mentioned before. Wal-mart put all their vendors on notice to supply lab results -not just GCCs- for anything shipped over the last three seasons. Fail to comply and they’ll ship it back. Burlington Coat Factory is demanding GCCs for everything shipped since January 1, 2006. Failure to comply means being assessed a chargeback that presumably feeds into an escrow pool in the event they’re sued by consumers. I received an email from someone who sells to Macy’s last week; they are demanding vendors produce a GCC within 24 hours of request. Or else. And yeah, I get it that most of you don’t sell to Macy’s, Wal-Mart or BCF but it affects you because if the apparel companies that do sell to them go under and they also sell to smaller stores you want to sell to and constitute the majority of their stock, those stores will go out of business too meaning you have lost a customer or at least a potential customer. Just as all boats float in a rising tide, they all flounder with the lack of one. In this case, decreased competition in the market place is destroying your chances rather than increasing your opportunities. Don’t you see that?

    You don’t have to take my word for it, here’s some choice testimony from independent store owners. This is why their standards are stricter than what the CPSIA requires:

    Many small stores like myself don’t have the power to send anything back…but regardless if you can or can’t send back, we will still be empty come Feb 10. In fact, most spring lines that are shipping right now are testing using XRF rather than 3rd party to save some time and expenses I presume, and since it’s not required of them until then. But that means come August, retailers like myself will be in the same predicament and will have to empty their shelves yet again and throw away their inventory come August! So I’ve made the decision not to accept any new inventory without 3rd party tests from now on. Sadly that looks like I’ll have a pretty empty store since we focus on handmade and smaller boutique labels for kids.

    Another store owner said:

    I have only received one Certificate of Compliance from a single manufacturer that applies to 2 of my 4000+ products. Several of my smaller manufacturers have told me that there is no way that they can afford the testing and they will probably go out of business. Some of the larger ones are “looking into it” but it will be several months before they will have anything and then it will only be for their new shipments, not for anything I have in my inventory now. Many of my suppliers are small custom crafters who are stunned to hear about this and of course will not be able to provide certificates. Other manufacturers are simply refusing my calls .

    The only thing the most recent letter sent to the CPSC proves is that Congress does know there’s a problem with CPSIA but rather than rest easy, we must step up the pressure now more than ever. Everyone has targeted CPSC for outrage but the hold up is Congress; there will be no change of CPSIA! Are you aware there was a meeting held for congressional staffers last week? Here’s a report from sources who attended the meeting.

    Even more outrageous, unnamed staffers are reported to have stated that no hearing would occur until an additional CPSC Commissioner was appointed, and that CPSC would be “unable” to appear at any earlier hearing. In other words, they have no intention of holding hearings in advance of the February 10 implementation date, despite the reams of data they possess on the many serious problems their law is causing. Actually, it is my understanding that the CPSC has requested such a hearing, but that request apparently fell on deaf ears. Spin, spin, spin - and then tell everyone that all discordant views are misinformation or the confusion of [fill-in-the-blank] people. Finally, to cap it off, we understand that House staffers are simply “too busy” to attend meetings with industry and the CPSC to discuss the details of the real life impact of the law.

    In other words, CPSC has availed themselves to deal with the problem but it is Congress -in spite of their politically self serving letters- that is gumming up the works. So Waxman, Rush, Pryor and Rockerfeller write a letter that’s released to the public, and everybody thinks the ball’s back in CPSC’s court. It’s not. CPSC’s request for a meeting has been refused. So while you think CPSC is the bad guy and the heat is off Congress, this can only amount to grandstanding to get you all to shut up. By the time you realize Congress is not going to move on it, it’ll be too late. Actually, word has it it’s not even Congress per se but a few key congressional staffers with the power to do this. I can’t mention names but it brings to mind the immense power that eunuchs held behind the thrones of Imperial China.
    So what can you do?

    You can email but avoid putting the word “CPSIA” in the subject line so they can’t create an email filter to dispose of them easily. Also, be smart with your subject line, do not write “HELP” or whatever in all caps. Even I delete those thinking those are spam. Write a professional subject line.

    * In addition to emailing your legislators, send an email to all these congressional aides who like the eunuchs of Imperial China, hold the power over what your congressman or senator sees.
    * If you’ve posted an Etsy protest page listing the costs of your product with testing, it is requested that you email that. Do not email a link to your page, they won’t go. Paste in your photo and the text.
    * Email your testing price quotes.
    * Fill out the Economic Impact Survey
    * Continue calls, letters and emails to the media. Of everything you are doing, this has the greatest impact. Do not be persuaded that Congress is acting on this; they are not.

    Feel free to use this text file to create a hyperlink that will automatically open an email window much as I did above and post it everywhere.
    • ALSO,

      caps for emphasis btw, also,

      while it may seem its intended only for stores such as Walmart, lets not forget that its often these types of laws that yes, will filter down to the little old lady down the street. Right now, in many cities, if you are caught selling Craft paint at garage sales they CAN ticket you and charge you, it IS against the law. While it may not be enforced, on a consistent level,

      doesn't mean it isn't. City zoning dept have ticketed people at garage sales, so it Does happen. As for targeting Craigs list, Etsy, etc., Here's the problem with that,

      while sure, the gov/CIPSA may state that the law is intended to stamp out lead via corporate production [which if you know how that whole production/labor system works is a hilarious joke, seriously, they will have numerous loopholes and gov assistance so they can continue on] only to corporations, i.e. Walmart,

      and not small time crafters or artists, etc. the Problem with thinking that's SAFE is that,

      all it will take is ONE complaint or ONE lawsuit, to either Craigslist or Etsy, and then THEY will be forced to either insist on safety standards or to shut down the sale of children's items Completely [and that includes any item that can be considered bought by a twelve year old, such as bags, purses, you name it, if a child might buy it IT falls under the regulation],

      because They aren't going to take the risk of being charged with allowing the sales or contributing to the sales of what is deemed contraband/illegal goods.

      Something to keep in mind,

      this is, just one law by the way that is cracking down more and more on those who want or are living self-sufficiently or are living off the grid or not living under Corporate rules/work, etc. These types of laws that limit or completely restrict individuals from working outside the radar so to speak or living that way, are being passed on numerous other things from living on the road in RVs [some families opt for that] to how you teach your children/or what schools you choose to how you pay your bills. Sure they may seem for our good and best interests,

      don't be so easily deceived, there often is another agenda behind those laws and unfortunately unless you have the money for high powered attorneys, you will be effected by them.

      The issue with this law that is extremely too broad is that it gives the 'enforcers' Teeth and it gives Corporations Teeth to go after the small time crafter or business that they may either feel is a threat or an encroachment on their territory or they may simply want to buy out/move out of the way.

      Etsy and Indie businesses, mostly which are btw, WOMEN centered economies, are not small time, they are one if not the fastest growing independent self-driven businesses and they are catching attention, especially in the rise of consciousness towards Green driven products/recycling. Corporations don't like that. Not in the least,

      who do you think, funds those Congressmen/women who voted yes on the bill?

      You can call me crazy but this legislation is far more than just safety of children [and if you Really want to look at safety of children, amazing how these same Congressmen/women vote against protection of children when it comes to child porn [recent Supreme Court decision], against trafficking legislation that protects children, against benefits that protect children, you name it, so the Gov having a heart for children,

      Come on, I'll believe that when I don't see mother's with children plastered all over Craigslist begging for help. Or women in tent cities being raped with impunity or harassed and arms broken by cops who because they are low income/ have no protection under our laws, or old women who I see daily who are literally starving and cities harassing them because they can't keep up with the enforcements including one old woman brutally arrested/beat up by cops in Utah, for not mowing her lawn. When I see Congress act on that, maybe Then I'll believe they care about children...

      this is about yes, keeping lead from major wide suppliers sure, very aware of that, [food however, still not tested--imported that is], that's what they Say--however, they can't Enforce laws in China, [or in other countries]

      only here. Therefore the retailers will be shouldering the burden, of proof. That includes the trickle down effect, from the large retailer [who has the money and they can simply raise cost of items] to the middle size retailer to the small, to the individual. When those large retailers have to increase prices on children's garments, books, accessories to cover those costs, do you NOT think, that they won't then DEMAND that smaller retailers and individuals not be held to the same standards or more?

      After all, if I can go buy from an individual or small shop or Thrift store because the large retailers are too expensive, including Walmart, that cuts into Their profits,

      don't think for a minute this law won't apply to you. It will,

      so please read and keep updated on it, don't just assume because they Say its only intended for overseas production and retailers such as Walmarts that it won't effect you.

      Modotti

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